Was Milton Friedman right after all???

Milton Friedman said a lot of things that were very controversial 40 years ago, but are now part of the economics mainstream. The natural rate hypothesis, and the view that monetary policy should have prime responsibility for aggregate demand and inflation, are now part of the New Keynesian orthodoxy. This shows how much Milton Friedman won his war. But there was one tactical battle he clearly lost, and lost badly.

Milton Friedman said that if the money supply kept growing at k% per year, where k was some small positive constant like 4%, nothing much could go very wrong with the macroeconomy, so that's what central banks should do. That never became part of conventional wisdom. Some people believed it in the 1970's. Almost nobody believes it now. I stopped believing it 30 years ago. So did the Bank of Canada, when it stopped targeting money growth. "We didn't abandon M1; M1 abandoned us" as Governor Bouey is reputed to have said. Money demand just isn't stable enough, and fluctuations in money demand can be just as damaging as fluctuations in money supply. And so central banks need to offset fluctuations in money demand while maintaining some sort of nominal anchor like an inflation target.

Milton Friedman was wrong on that one, and the current recession seemed to be just one more example of him being wrong. The current recession looked like an increase in money demand, either as part of a general excess demand for safe assets (as Brad DeLong argues), or a general demand for liquid assets. It didn't look like a fall in the money supply.

Now I'm not so sure. Reading Gary Gorton and Andrew Metrick  (H/T Tyler Cowen) I realise I don't have a clue what's in the stock of money any more. And when I say "money" I don't just mean credit, or money substitutes; I mean full-blown media of exchange, like currency, or chequable demand deposits in fractional reserve banks. I mean stuff you can buy things with, without first having to sell them for money, or follow up by paying money later.

Suppose you were a monetary economist in the US in the 1930's. And suppose you knew that currency was a medium of exchange, but you didn't know that demand deposits at fractional reserve banks were also media of exchange. You would have noticed the runs on banks, and bank closures, but you wouldn't think that these had anything to do with the supply of money. As far as you knew, the money supply, which you thought of as currency, would have seemed OK. You would completely miss the fall in the money supply.

Maybe we are like that now. Maybe a large part of the money supply is dark matter. We didn't see it fall. We saw the runs on the shadow banking system, but didn't see how it affected the money supply.

I have no idea if this is right. It probably isn't. But I'm not as confident as I used to be that Milton Friedman was wrong on the k% rule. Of course, it makes it even harder actually to implement a k% rule, if we include dark matter in the thing we're supposed to make grow at k%. Because if they are that hard to see, they are even harder to control.

Update: here's a simpler paper by Gary Gorton (pdf). (H/T 123.)

99 comments

  1. Phil Koop's avatar
    Phil Koop · · Reply

    Nick, I thought Bill Woolsey made some good points. His post was a long one, so I am going to offer a condensed version of what I liked. I deposit money in a bank, and from my point of view, I still have my money. The bank will invest this money in a way that is opaque to me. It may loan the money, creating another deposit in another bank – i.e., money. In the old days, if the bank had no lending opportunities, it would park the money in fed funds. These funds would work their way to the central money market banks, where it would fund leveraged positions, creating money. Nowadays, it might be parked in a money market mutual fund. Such funds invest in commercial paper; ultimately, this results in a loan, so they too create money. Or the bank might lend the money by executing a reverse in the repo market. This will fund a leveraged position not too different from what the fed funds would have done; it could be viewed as a substitution.
    The repo market is an enormous money market, and has been for decades. Nobody can dispute that it has the effect of expanding balance sheets and therefore credit. But is repo a “medium of exchange”? That comes down to definitions, and it seems that I do not think that phrase means what you think it means. In my lexicon, something that is not a medium and cannot be exchanged is not a medium of exchange. In particular, in my opinion there was never a time when AAA ABS tranches were a close substitute for cash. Even T-bills are not a perfect substitute. So I do not view AAA ABS as “privately created money.”

  2. Lee Kelly's avatar

    I don’t understand how shadow banking is creating money.
    The only way it could create money is if it lends some fraction of its deposits while also making the full amount available to the depositor on demand, right?
    How does this work with repurchase agreements?

  3. Unknown's avatar

    Kevin: yes, I was going a bit soft in that comment you quoted. A bit “wobbly” – I think that’s the right term in this context! If it’s like money for the individual, is it still like money in aggregate? Is it part of supply, or something that reduces demand? Sometimes I like to draw back from my opinions (go soft), and see if I end up re-establishing them.
    Phil: I thought Bill’s comment was a very good one too. I am trying to reach a synthesis between you and Bill, and it’s great to see you do your own synthesis.

  4. Unknown's avatar

    Doesn’t defining the medium of exchange mean understanding Gorton’s point that there is a difference between information insensitive securities (e.g. a dollar, where there is no asymmetry of knowledge – you can count on $1 being worth $1 tomorrow) and information sensitive securities (e.g. AAPL stock, where there is an asymmetry of knowledge – someone could know something that others don’t which could effect its value and potentially leave a lender holding the bag), and that securities can oscillate between the two?
    For example, in 2005 AAA MBS and other AAA structured products indeed functioned like money because there had never been a historic default in these products, etc. Through repurchase agreements, one could borrow on such collateral at 2-5% haircuts (almost a substitute for money). But of course, in 2008, those who demanded collateral realized that some of these structures contained a ton of subprime and that defaults could eat up to the AAA tranche. Suddenly, the repo market for AAA MBS collapsed (completely unmoney-like) and when it eventually came back, haircuts were sometimes as onerous as 30-50% (still not money-like). To me this means, that the money supply depends on what securities the market considers money-like at any given moment and its never a fixed basket.

  5. vjk's avatar

    “any asset you can quickly and easily borrow a large percentage of the value of, is almost as good as cash.”
    Nick:
    You cannot take $1 repo, go to a store and buy a pair of shoes(Consume) or buy a newly built house(Invest).
    You can do C or I with $1 cash.
    Therefore, cash != repo.
    Likewise, with any security.
    Whoever holds a security postpones C or I by ceding those I/C rights to someone else.
    A chain of repos can explode the balance sheet infinitely, with only two participants exchanging $1 Tbil for $1 cash in a loop, with no I or C occurring.
    It is quite possible that I may be missing something 😉

  6. Mike Sproul's avatar

    Nick:
    “lack of fungibility of real assets makes them unsuitable as money. But if you can get them valued reasonably well, you can borrow against them quickly and easily with just a small haircut, so it’s very close to monetising those assets.”
    What it comes down to is that anything of value can be either used directly as money, or else taken to a reputable individual (e.g., a bank, a pawn shop, a local Mafioso, etc…) and swapped for that individual’s IOU’s, which can then be used as money. So a quantity theorist trying to pin down the quantity of money is stuck in Neverland.
    Now compare that to what the backing theory says: The value of any given money, however defined, does not depend on “how much money is chasing how many goods”. The value of any given piece of money depends on the value of the assets backing it. Quantity theorists might argue forever over whether a gift card to the local grocery store is money or not, but there’s nothing Neverlandish about the fact that the gift card is backed by the assets of the grocer.

  7. Unknown's avatar

    Mike: sure. But the “backing theory” would also explain the price of assets in a barter economy. It misses the point that money is used as a medium of exchange, to overcome real trading frictions, and when everyone wants to hang onto money, and nobody wants to part with it, things can go badly wrong with the volume of trade, and whether all mutually advantageous trades can be consummated. And the demand for money, as a stock, and hence the equilibrium price of money, is not unaffected by the fact that people actually find the stuff useful, precisely because it helps us overcome those trading frictions.

  8. Unknown's avatar

    vjk: You are not missing anything, at least, not as far as I know. In fact, what you are saying sounds very much like what I would have said, before I tried to get my head around the Gary Gorton stuff.
    But, I know you can’t go to the local store and buy shoes, or buy a new house, with repo. But can you buy financial assets (or anything) with repo?
    You see, I wondered if I was missing something!

  9. Unknown's avatar

    MrRearden: It’s a long-standing tenet of monetary theory that the good that serves as money has to be something where information about its value is symmetric. Used cars (Akerlov’s market for lemons) won’t work very well as money because the seller knows more about the value than the buyer. When Gary Gorton talks about “information insensitive” assets he’s harking back to an old literature in the microfoundations of money (knowingly or not). Alchian had an old paper, very much in the Mengerian tradition, where he says that the good whose quality can be cheaply measured by all people becomes the medium of exchange, and other goods are bought and sold by specialist traders.
    So it’s a necessary condition for a good being chosen to use as money (medium of exchange). But it doesn’t mean it necessarily gets used as money. It would make it a lot easier to buy and sell, and a lot easier to borrow close to its full value (small haircut). And it would be easier to use it as money if we chose to. But does anybody actually choose to?

  10. Unknown's avatar

    Bill: I’m working through your meaty comment. Slowly.
    First thought. If people use money during the day, but the stock of money gets measured at night, and if there are incentives to switch wealth out of monetary accounts into non-monetary accounts every night, then yes, money will be mismeasured.
    “It’s not a demand deposit, but I will convert it into a demand deposit immediately if you ever need me to, on demand”.

  11. vjk's avatar

    “But can you buy financial assets (or anything) with repo? ”
    The repo seller (borrower) can buy anything, most likely securities rather than shoes, since he gets cash. The repo buyer(lender) has to wait for his cash plus interest to come back (or “re-repo” the collateral) before buying anything including other securities.
    Repo is just a loan, like HELOC, with some specific features regarding bankruptcy provisions, legal collateral ownership and such.
    Security dealers settle in cash through their custodian banks. I am not aware of settling in securities (other than netting), but I am not a trader so may be off base here. Perhaps it’s done as a kind of barter but I’d imagine it would be rather unusual.

  12. Unknown's avatar

    vjk: “netting” is presumably (at it’s simplest) where I owe you 10 shares, and you owe me 6, so we cancel out the 6, and say I owe you 4, and only deliver (or pay cash for) 4?
    If so, then netting is like barter, because it’s the like peculiar case of a double coincidence of wants, where barter works fine.
    And when you say settle in “cash”, you presumably mean something like my chequing account at BMO?
    It’s all sounding just the same as pawnbrokers.

  13. vjk's avatar

    “10 shares, and you owe me 6” of The same stuff, yes.
    “And when you say settle in “cash”, you presumably mean something like my chequing account at BMO?”
    more or less, possibly with some overdraft privileges.

  14. Mike Sproul's avatar

    Nick:
    “the demand for money, as a stock, and hence the equilibrium price of money, is not unaffected by the fact that people actually find the stuff useful”
    We also find air useful, but so far that hasn’t driven up its price. The supply of air is horizontal at zero, so its price is zero. If we traded with 1 oz. silver coins, and if people could also trade with slips of paper that reliably promised 1 oz., then the supply of those slips would be horizontal at 1.00 oz., so that would be their price, no matter how much consumer surplus we got from them. Even if physical convertibility of those slips was suspended, their issuers could still maintain their value at 1.00 oz. just by standing ready to buy them back for various assets that were worth 1.00 oz.
    I’m still contending that there is no historical example of any bank, private or governmental, whose paper money traded at a premium over its backing value. Still waiting for a contradicting example.

  15. Unknown's avatar

    Mike: Zimbabwe. Negative backing value. Obvious to everyone that Mugabe would just keep printing the stuff, to buy goods for the army. Obvious to everyone that it was a Ponzi scheme, only with massively negative real rates of return. And yet the stuff kept a positive value, for so long. There’s one hell of a lot of ruin in even a really crappy medium of exchange. All other countries, with their inflation targets and promised negative real rate of return on money, are just micro Zimbabwes. Negative backing.

  16. Mike Sproul's avatar

    Nick:
    Zimbabwe, for all its faults, was still a recognized government, still owned valuable stuff, still had the ability to collect taxes, and still received foreign aid, some of which people might have expected to be eventually used to redeem the currency. It’s not at all clear that backing value was negative. In fact, it’s doubtful.
    We could try looking at defunct governments, where people had no hope of the government redeeming the money, but when we do, we find that zero backing leads to zero currency value. The Iraqi Swiss dinar presents one example of a valuable currency issued by a defunct government, but the dinar was eventually redeemed by the new government, meaning that its positive value reflected the expectation of positive backing.
    Now look at ordinary moneys: dollars, pounds, pesos, euros, etc. None of them trade at a premium over their backing value, but somehow mainstream monetary theory says that backing isn’t even needed.
    You’ve expressed some very salient doubts about mainstream monetary theory, and there’s a good reason for your doubts: The theory is wrong.

  17. RSJ's avatar

    Whenever you write a check to purchase a good, in the background someone somewhere in the payment system is either selling some asset for cash and then using the cash to buy another asset. It just isn’t you.
    Why does this distinction matter?
    Wouldn’t it be easier to just assume that anything that can be quickly and relatively costlessly sold for cash serves as a store of value?
    I have an integrated brokerage/banking/checking/credit card account. Bonds, stocks, money market mutual funds — to me, it is all money. When I want to spend, I shift money from one account to another — it takes about 30 seconds. To me, 100% of my portfolio is money. I set up bill pay from it and charge purchases on it. The fact that, in the background, someone is buying and selling assets in order to allow me to do that is immaterial to any of my decision making. It is wealth and I spend my wealth to buy things, or refrain from buying to increase it.
    In the background others may need to execute a chain of sales to make it all happen within a certain settlement period, but so what? All traded financial assets are money.

  18. Jon's avatar

    Its an old story. Broader money definitions–ones that include the shadow banking sector enclose financial innovation better:

    The basic issue is that M3 is too narrow. Too much credit is created outside of the banking system.

  19. Too Much Fed's avatar
    Too Much Fed · · Reply

    “Suppose you were a monetary economist in the US in the 1930’s. And suppose you knew that currency was a medium of exchange, but you didn’t know that demand deposits at fractional reserve banks were also media of exchange. You would have noticed the runs on banks, and bank closures, but you wouldn’t think that these had anything to do with the supply of money. As far as you knew, the money supply, which you thought of as currency, would have seemed OK. You would completely miss the fall in the money supply.”
    Do you see one of the differences between price inflating with currency denominated debt and price inflating with currency?

  20. Too Much Fed's avatar
    Too Much Fed · · Reply

    Jon said: “The basic issue is that M3 is too narrow. Too much credit is created outside of the banking system.”
    Bingo and good chart!

  21. edeast's avatar

    The Tiff Maklem speech has him talking about trying to find a definition for M and the BOC taking into account credit flow.

  22. Bill Woolsey's avatar
    Bill Woolsey · · Reply

    RSJ,
    You go to the store to buy milk. You want to pay for this by reducing your holdings of Microsoft. How do you do this exactly?
    Or, does someone else decide that you have made a purchase, and the best way to fund this is to sell your microsoft stock?
    The specifics are important if we are to determine whether or not all wealth is money for you. Worse, to make these determination, we have to make judgement’s about the sellers too.
    P.S. some of the comments in this thread confuse money and credit. Money is an asset people hold. Credit is lend money for people to spend. The quantity of money isn’t the amount of lending.
    When you make receive deposits, say a direct deposit, does your brokerage firm purchase particular stocks for you?
    My guess is that your brokerage provides an account that is just like a checkable deposit and provides you a line of credit secured by all of the assets they hold for you. If you deposit money and do nothing, then the brokerage fund has borrowed from you and owes you the money back. You can tell them to buy securities with it. If you run out of money, then they will lend you money against the security of your asset holdings.
    Anyway, the balance in your account is money. Generally, if you instruct them to put it in a money market mutual fund, it is money. But your other holdings of securities are not money.
    Can the price of a dollar balance in your brokerage account change from one dollar?
    But, if there is a situation where you don’t have to first order a sale of stock, and then that money is credit to your account, and then you can write checks, or you have to choose to sell a stock, and then the funds are used to pay down the money you owe to the brokerage, but rather, you just write a check, and the brokerage sells assets to cover your expense, then we are moving into territory where those assets are monetized.
    However, it is a bit grey if the typical buyer of the security isn’t in your same situation. Even if your brokerage is selling stock for you to cover your payments without your decision, but they are selling to someone who is choosing to buy for investment purposes, then the security is like money to you, but not to the buyer.
    But suppose the buyer of the security is a brokerage that is purchasing the stock because a client deposited a check, and that is what they are doing with the funds?
    Suppose such a system is universal. This is the sort of system described by Fama. He said there is no money. I say that this system monetizes a whole set of heterogeneous financial assets. If you assume (or believe) financial asset prices are determined by a mathematical formula, then there is no monetary disequilibrium. If you don’t assume that, then I believe these assets used by the payment system will be subject to the problems of monetary disequilibrium. I don’t think Fama could see that for some reason.

  23. Unknown's avatar

    Edeast: I just read Tiff’s speech. Yes, the interesting part is near the end. In normal times, data on M doesn’t seem to help the Bank target inflation. But in abnormal times it does. (Similar to what David Laidler has been saying recently). Here’s the link to Tiff’s speech (yours doesn’t work for me): http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/speeches/2010/sp051010.html
    Bill: Suppose I have a margin account that I can write cheques on. I have $100 in stocks, zero “cash” balance (I’m fully invested), but the margin rules allow me to borrow up to $30 on those stocks. How should we measure M in this case? $0 or $30?

  24. The Money Demand Blog's avatar

    Bill: Fama is too much focused on stocks. He thinks that his 3 risk factor model fits data well without any need to consider liquidity risk. Here is one random example of asset pricing models with liquidity risk premium:

    Click to access liquidity_risk.pdf

  25. vjk's avatar

    Nick:
    Your margin account is in effect part of the brokerage account at the brokerage’s custodian bank that grants a line of credit or collateralized overdraft allowance to the brokerage.
    As such, your margin account workings are no different from that of an ordinary line of credit which in its turn is not different from any credit extension i.e. “loan” except being an off the balance sheet bank exposure, but that’s an unimportant detail.

  26. vjk's avatar

    Re. “$0 or $30?”
    Until you actually borrow and money flows from your credit allowance into someone’s deposit, it’s zero (with a potential of becoming $30). When it’s realized as a $30 deposit, it becomes a stock and can be measured as such although the utility of such measurement may be disputed as the deposit may be destroyed pretty soon as a result of some loan repayment.

  27. Unknown's avatar

    Bill: I feel like the credit – money distinction is like the chicken and the egg. If the repo market for AAA MBS collapses like in did in 2008, are we observing an outright contraction in the money supply or a credit contraction which creates excess demand for money?

  28. Jon's avatar

    Bill: The distinction between money and money substitutes is both important and irrelevant depending on the context.
    The simple truth is this, unless you take the radical position that only M0 matters–That’s your position is it? –then you cannot draw a distinction between time-deposits and float created by the credit card system.
    There does not to be any base money for the visa card system to work. Its a money supply that expands elastically and is always in equilibrium with demand. Just like money the yield is zero.

  29. Unknown's avatar

    vjk: there’s a certain logic to your answer. Trouble is, suppose I get a loan of $30 against my stocks, and deposit in my chequing account. Then M=$30, even if I don’t spend it. But what is the fundamental difference between the two cases?
    Jon: This to me is key: when I spend currency it doesn’t go out of existence. It leaves my pocket, but goes into someone else’s pocket. Same with demand deposits, which just goes from my account to someone else’s. A “money” that disappears, in aggregate, as soon as I spend it, isn’t “money” in the same sense. It might be the same for the individual, but doesn’t have the same macroeconomic consequences.

  30. vjk's avatar

    Nick:
    “even if I don’t spend it. But what is the fundamental difference between the two cases?”
    You did spend by the very act of depositing lent money because now you owe the bank the interest. When you repay the bank, with an interest, the deposit is destroyed.
    The very reason to be for the bank is to profit from lending.
    The mission was accomplished by your making a deposit.

  31. Lee Kelly's avatar

    John is holding a lot of cash (but in what form?). He wants a low risk way to invest — something like a chequing account. But the FDIC only insures chequing accounts up to $100k, and John has a lot more than $100k to deposit. So he turns to shadow banking. John approaches a bank, hands over his cash and gets an IOU back. The IOU stipulates that John is the temporary owner of some asset; this is collateral that John may keep if the banks fails to repay its debt — a substitute for FDIC cover. Technically, the IOU is not redeemable on demand, but since it is extremely short-term (usually overnight) the difference is negligible. The next day the bank is ready to repay John’s IOU, but it gives him the option to “roll over” his IOU until the next day, and the day after that, and so on. Some days John withdraws a portion of the IOU and other days he deposits more. The arrangement works very similarly to an ordinary demand deposits, including the fact that banks do not need to match all outstanding debts with readily available cash, because most “depositors” just roll over their investments each day. For all intents and purposes, these quasi-chequing accounts are money, and subject to almost all the same principles as ordinary banking.
    During the bust, the value of the collateral started falling, and banks balance sheets started wavering. The quasi-depositors stopped rolling over their IOUs and all tried to withdraw at once. Of course, with no Federal Quasi-deposit Insurance Company to step in, banks started a “fire sale” of assets to meet demands and the panic truly set in.
    Is that right? I really don’t understand the financial world very well. I mostly just like to think about pure theory, so many of the terms and concepts people are throwing around here are unfamiliar to me.
    What form were these original deposits made in? That seems important. Was this a shift out of currency or ordinary chequing accounts? Currency is also base money, so that distinction seems important to me, though I haven’t quite figured out why.

  32. Jon's avatar

    Nick:
    Surely that must be a faulty definition; it eliminates currency as a form of money, which as you know elastically gyrates up and down on a daily basis in order to meet the varying settlement demand–just as about the amount of credit outstanding varies to match demand.
    This is precisely why banks cartelized to establish clearinghouses. Most of the transactions net-out, so credit can replace most of the demand for medium exchange. Much as paper notes circulated and were claims on real money–gold. Gold demand was then lessened because it was only needed to settle foreign obligations.
    Under the gold regimes of the past two hundred years, it was understood that notes were a contingent claim on money–that they were money substitutes and literally credit. You cannot seriously dispute that.
    Just because notes became irredeemable then does not mean that the entire class of credit became not money a substitute–and keep in mind that through most of history, notes were not universally accepted at your corner store just as in many countries where multiple currencies are in routine use, not all merchants will accept settlement in all currencies.
    In the financial markets, government debt was and still is used for settlement purposes. Commercial paper was and still is accepted for settlement.
    Even if you cannot use those things to buy bread, they contribute as substitutes for true money for certain things and as such they lessen the demand for true money. When those those things cease to be accepted as money, you get an increase in the demand for money.
    Ergo, it does matter what those things are and how they add up. What does not matter is an index which carries over components no longer accepted as money.

  33. vjk's avatar

    “In the financial markets, government debt was and still is used for settlement purposes. Commercial paper was and still is accepted for settlement.”
    neither is — the custodian’s cash account is used for settlements there, just as anyone’s checking account is used for the same purpose. Rocket science it ain’t.

  34. RSJ's avatar

    Bill,
    “You go to the store to buy milk. You want to pay for this by reducing your holdings of Microsoft. How do you do this exactly?”
    Not necessarily MS for Milk. If I have a checking account, I write a check to the grocery store. The grocery store deposits the check with their bank. My bank, as part of its cash management operations, may sell some commercial paper and send the funds to the grocer’s bank. It does sell some asset: the liabilities decreased, so the assets decrease as well. The grocer’s bank must buy some assets. It increases the funds available to the grocer, and say uses the cash to buy commercial paper.
    At the end of the day, all that happened was a swap of who holds the commercial paper — my bank or the grocer’s bank. You can pretend the cash did not exist. Of course this does require assuming the short term funding markets are working properly. Let’s say the CB makes sure that this happens, that markets are liquid so all these assets are close substitutes and that there are no settlement failures.
    Now, does it make a difference whether I sell the commercial paper myself, or someone sells it for me? Does it make a difference if I sell a share in a money market fund? What about a stock mutual fund?
    At least in a simple, first order approximation, you would assume that all these assets are equivalent. Later on, you can talk about duration matching so that I would be more likely to sell my MS holdings for a car and my commercial paper holdings for milk. And you can also talk about heterogeneity of pricing, so I would be more likely to sell my MS holdings when I thought they were overvalued as opposed to my bond holdings, and vice versa.
    But you should be able to make the “excess demand for money” argument work even if there is only one financial asset — say risk free bonds and cash, and only a single good, and you should be able to make it work even with homogeneous expectations.
    Or, is the argument that there can be an excess demand for money only when there is short term funding crisis, in which case the recession only lasted a couple of months, and things were back to full employment when LIBOR returned to earth?
    Actually, the whole excess demand for money is itself a category error. Demand and supply apply only to flows, not stocks. You cannot take an indifference curve between a stock and flow, or talk about the MRS between a stock and flow. The “medium of exchange” is a stock. There is no desire or demand for a stock. The size of the monetary base does not enter into a walrassian equation, or into any utility function.
    I think if those adherents to the excess demand for money phenomenon were to write down what they really mean, then they would realize that it is income, or money received per period, that is demanded, and not the total stock of money. Then your whole argument relies on the money multiplier mechanism in order to show that an increase in the monetary base will by necessity generate an increase in incomes. But we can refute this empirically, and yet the excess demand for money model refuses to die.

  35. Bill Woolsey's avatar
    Bill Woolsey · · Reply

    RSJ:
    The way to combine stocks and flows and to look at flows and desired changes in stocks.
    This can all be done with only one asset–money, and production and consumption of a single consumer good over time.
    With multiple assets, then of course the extra consumer goods that can be obtained because of the yield on the assets also impacts the desired change in the the stock of money held. No one denies that.
    The desired change in the stock of money isn’t the same thing as the desire for income. You must be kidding.
    The money multiplier process is not necessary for there to an excess demand for money. What if there is no money multiplier at all because currency is the sole type of money? What if there is no money multiplier because there is no monetary base?
    Finally, your notion that all assets are money because a payment involves one bank increases assets and another decreasing assets…
    you must be joking. That is supposed to be news?
    If you sell an asset to fund the purchase of a consumer good, then this puts downward pressure on the price and upward pressure on the yield of the asset. You provide an incentive for someone else to hold the asset rather than spending on consumer goods or capital goods. This frees up resources to produce the consumer good you buy.
    If you write a check to buy a consumer good and your bank ends up selling an asset and the seller’s bank buys an asset, no such signal is generated. There is no reason to believe that the seller who receives the added balance in his checking account wants to hold that money rather than spend it. No signal or incentive is created to keep the demand for current output in line with productive capacity.
    Similarly, if you earn money income and refrain from making expenditures, you accumulate money balances. Your bank will be accumulating assets to match that. Great. However, the banks of those whose payments formed your income will be selling off assets. Assets held by the banking system are unchanged.
    Suppose that instead you received money income and spent it on some asset. This puts upward pressure on the price of the asset and downward pressure on the yield. This creates a signal and incentive for others to hold fewer such assets and instead purchase consumer or capital goods. While your bank would sell assets, the bank of the person selling the you the assets would buy assets. The assets of the banking system would be unchanged.
    An excess demand for money is possible if there is no base money. It is the relationship between the demand to hold a certain type of bank liability and the quantity of that liability created by banks. If you want to compare this to a flow, (and how it impacts the flow of money expenditures is the point,) then it is the change in the desired stock of those bank liabilities over time and the change in the desired stock of those bank liabilities that banks choose to offer. The differences will be the same whether you look at the stocks or the changes in the stocks.
    And so, nobody gets all worked up about this stock flow issue.
    Patinkin covered this in the fifties, I think.
    Anyway, I think it is conceivable for there to be a monetary system where many, even all, ordinary securities are effectively monetized. Nobody but “banks” ever buys or sells securities, they just write checks or receive them. And those managing the payments system always make offsetting purchases or sales. (Fama) Similarly, we can imagine economies with no financial asset markets other than bank deposits and lines of credit. People fund expenditures on output by writing checks and they can only hold balances in checking accounts. (Black.)
    Black and Fama imagine that this makes monetary disequilibrium impossible. Wrong–it just spreads it out over all financial markets. Instead of being a special problem with those assets generally accepted in exchange, it becomes a problem with all assets.
    If you assume asset prices and yields are always at equilibrium (like with a Walrasian auctioneer,) then there would be no disequilibrium. But what market process would cause those yields or prices to change? No process.

  36. vjk's avatar

    “My bank, as part of its cash management operations, may sell some commercial paper and send the funds to the grocer’s bank”
    A sane bank’s treasury would maintain a cash buffer as part of its daily cash management operations. The cash buffer would be funded primarily by the bank’s liability side of its balance sheet: deposits, interbank borrowing, etc. Daily cash flows due to deposit/withdrawal activity is relatively stable and pretty predictable. So, in the above scenario, the two banks will most likely settle directly in cash without selling any assets.
    An insane bank, such as Northern Rock plc, may think that all “money” (CP, CDOs, ABS, etc) is cash and engage in commercial paper trickery to manage daily cash flows, with predictable consequences.
    “Let’s say the CB makes sure that this happens, that markets are liquid so all these assets are close substitutes and that there are no settlement failures. ”
    After 2007 lessons, that’s quite an assumption ! Fortunately, empirically, some banks learned (at least temporarily) that the interbank market is not quite frictionless, not everything is “money” and that their balance sheets are not as goods as they looked at the quarter end, and chose to hoard about 1Tril extra cash on their balance sheets’ asset side rather than buy commercial paper or some other “money” equivalent.

  37. hishamh's avatar

    “The version of the Lucas Critique applied to money targeting was….damn! Mental blank. British guy. But it was more empirical than theoretical.”
    Nick, sorry for coming into his thread late, but the name you’re looking for is Charles Goodhart (of LSE):
    “Any observed statistical regularity will tend to collapse once pressure is placed upon it for control purposes” (1975)

  38. RSJ's avatar

    VJK,
    Balance sheet problems of banks are real, but this is not due to a shortage of media of exchange, neither does this constitute a failure in the payment system. The latter applies only when there is no confidence that trades can be successfully executed at any price — because you do not believe that the trade will settle or that your counterparty will be able to honor its obligation. We had some of that for, say, a month, but this cannot explain the current output gap. Moreover, the temporary liquidity crisis was a symptom of the persistent balance sheet crisis, rather than as the sole explanation for why there is persistent mass unemployment.
    The fact that your assets are re-priced downward does not constitute a settlement failure. It means that you have a solvency, not a liquidity crisis. There is no liquidity crisis for banks when they can borrow at zero rates. The balance sheet problems facing banks are because they overpaid for assets, not because the assets are illiquid.
    Neither are the banks “hoarding” cash. The CB sets the marginal cost of reserves, which is currently zero, or near zero. It is illogical to hoard something that you can acquire costlessly and in unlimited amounts. Actually, “the medium of exchange” is the only thing that is never hoarded when the CB operates in a rate targeting regime — the supply of cash is perfectly horizontal at overnight terms. If everyone were to withdraw cash and not redeposit it, but were to continue to be current on their loans, then banks would not be starved for cash as the CB would create more as needed and the balance sheets of banks would remain sound.
    But this does not happen in an era of deposit insurance, so that technical factors determine the amount of cash that banks need as vault cash or required reserves to meet their cash-management needs, and any additional cash is unnecessary. Banks then proceed to try to lend this cash out in the overnight market, driving down the overnight rate. In order to keep this rate at the target, the CB drains the unwanted cash by selling treasuries into the market — this is the only mechanism by which the excess cash can be removed from the banking system.
    If for some reason, the CB does not sell enough treasuries or otherwise remove the excess cash, then overnight rates will be zero and the excess cash will sit on bank balance sheets as unwanted reserves. That is a far cry from hoarding. It is the opposite of hoarding. Something has a marginal price of zero when no one wants it — not when it is hoarded. What is in short supply are profits — income net of expenditure — not the medium of exchange.
    The only reason why we have excess reserves now is that the CB is not draining. Initially during the crisis, the CB sterilized its lending operations and drew down its stock of treasuries. Since then, it has stopped sterilizing and rebuilt its stock of treasuries, but has continued asset purchases. As a byproduct, you see excess reserves in the banking system. Banks would much rather have those assets be interest bearing government bonds than cash sitting on deposit with the CB. But they are stuck, and this situation unwanted reserves is supposed to stimulate the economy.

  39. Unknown's avatar

    hisham: Goodhart’s Law. That’s the one!

  40. vjk's avatar

    RSJ:
    “The fact that your assets are re-priced downward does not constitute a settlement failure. It means that you have a solvency, not a liquidity crisis. ”
    A settlement failure occurs when there is no cash on your account to settle your obligations with immediacy and no one is willing to lend or buy your CDOs. Solvency and liquidity can, to a degree, be separable during “normal” times which exist in theory but rarely in practice. More often than not one leads to the other for obvious reasons.

    Neither are the banks “hoarding” cash. …It is illogical to hoard something that you can acquire costlessly and in unlimited amounts.

    That the cash is “costless” and “unlimited” is a dangerous misconception to promote. Some economists, especially of MMT persuasion, assume frictionless interbank market that distributes cash across the “system” efficiently and a Central bank that creates required cash in infinite amounts to replenish the “system”. None of those assumptions are even remotely true in practice. Basel III finally admits that cash management is as much, if not more, important as capital requirements and makes specific numerous recommendations and requirements to provide reliable cash management, being the first Basel to do so. Should cash be a free resource MMT claims it to be, why would the BIS bother ?
    The fact that banks hoard cash was discussed a lot during the August 2008 Jackson Hole meeting. There, McCulley (who was allegedly the first to use the “shadow banking” name) admitted : “I confess I was a large liquidity hoarder even though I was a net lender to the System last fall”.
    “The only reason why we have excess reserves now is that the CB is not draining.”
    Not at all. The banks could have easily bought government securities on the open market without any CB participation thus exchanging their reserve cash for bonds or any other security of their choice. Some of the reasons they choose no do so is weakness of their balance sheet, real or perceived counter-party risk, lack of trust in the interbank market efficiency in distributing cash.

  41. RSJ's avatar

    VJK,
    An individual bank can purchase a treasury on the open market, but this just shifts the cash to the bank of the treasury seller. Unless the treasury seller is the central bank, in which case the cash is destroyed. In the same way, a member bank can borrow in the overnight or short term funding markets, but this just takes cash from another member. Neither of these operations increases or decreases the total stock of cash in the system. Only the CB can do that.
    So if we have an economy with 10 banks that each need $50 billion for their vault cash and reserve requirement needs, then in aggregate they need $500 billion. The economy as a whole only needs 500 billion to support the given cash-flows. Assume each bank has enough. Now the central bank buys $100 billion of treasuries, the seller deposits the money into his bank, and that bank, as it already has enough cash, will try to buy some short term asset, driving down the price. The seller of the short term asset deposits the proceeds into his bank, which also has enough, and it buys some other short term asset, driving the short term rate down even lower. The process repeats until the short term rate is zero, or very close to it, at which point whichever bank(s) have excess cash will be indifferent between holding onto to the zero yield cash and purchasing a zero yield short term asset. All throughout, some bank(s) will always have this money in their reserve accounts, in excess of their required reserves. Therefore the CB has just created $100 billion in excess reserves and has simultaneously driven the short term rate to zero.
    In the reverse process, if there is an overall system shortage of cash, the short term rates will spike up, some banks fail and you have a payment crisis. But the CB will not let them remain elevated — it will supply all the cash that banks need for their vaults and required reserves by buying enough assets to drive the rate back down to the policy level. By definition, when the overnight rate is stable at the policy level, then there cannot be an overall shortage of cash. And when the overnight rate is zero, then there cannot be any excess desire for cash. That does not mean that specific banks with bad balance sheets don’t go bankrupt or that asset prices don’t fall. This says nothing about the long term risky cost of capital for non-financial investment. But it means that the banking system as a whole is not liquidity constrained and the payments system is working, even though investors may not like the prints.
    But the main point here is that you only need enough cash (as a stock) to meet the existing transaction flows — due to netting, a tiny amount. Cash is just a technology that allows this complex set of flows to work. Doubling the stock of cash so that there is a trillion dollar excess over what is needed is not going to cause the spending flows to double, anymore that VISA, by doubling the reliability of its payment system is going to cause people to buy materially more with their credit cards.
    You should be able to formulate a model of recessions that does not rely on the payments system malfunctioning as your source of demand failures, and a simple model of the economy should just assume that the payments system is working and that the economy is cashless.

  42. vjk's avatar

    RSJ:
    “Neither of these operations increases or decreases the total stock of cash in the system. Only the CB can do that.”
    Not at all — the CB is not the only player here. The banks are free to participate in Treasury auctions if they decide to do so, and that’s what they do to get rid of extra cash:
    “banks bought a total of $40 billion from the Treasury in March, according to analysts at Deutsche Bank.” (Banks May Not Be Lending, But They Are Buying Treasurys).
    Of course, a private party buying government paper through its bank would have the same drain effect on reserves.
    Likewise, Treasury spending “injects” cash in the system and taxation drains it.
    One has also to keep in mind that cash was not forced on banks by the evil feds — the excess reservee were the result of banks willing to increase their cash holdings for whatever reason.

  43. RSJ's avatar

    Technically, no, the treasury department has an account with the CB and is just another user of the CB’s currency. Under current arrangements, the treasury does not have the power to create or destroy cash, and so sales of newly created treasuries by the treasury dept. do not remove excess reserves. This is because the treasury sells bonds in order to spend, so whatever cash is drained by the treasury sale is then spent by government and ends up back on some bank’s balance sheet in the form of payroll, interest payments to households (and banks), vendor payments, etc. This does not increase or decrease the quantity of cash in the system.
    Now, if the government ran a budget surplus, then in principle the treasury would have a surplus of cash on account at the federal reserve, but this would not constitute excess reserves in the private sector banking system. So in that case, you are right, by running budget surpluses, the treasury would be draining the banking system of cash, and if the system was in a normal state (e.g. no large excess reserves), then the CB would need to offset the budget surpluses by purchasing government debt, otherwise it would through the banking system into a crisis. Alternately, the treasury could establish accounts with member banks and shift its cash holdings to them.
    And yes, banks are absolutely helpless to get rid of the excess reserves and have, in aggregate, no control over the level of excess reserves. This is a simple arithmetic fact.

  44. vjk's avatar

    RSJ:
    ” This is because the treasury sells bonds in order to spend, so whatever cash is drained by the treasury sale is then spent by government and ends up back on some bank’s balance sheet ”
    That’s a good point. Assuming the government spends everything it gets through taxation and security paper issuance, the aggregate reserve flows will net to zero, and that’s a very realistic assumption.
    However, the bank sector still can change its balance sheet composition by buying paper at Treasury’s auctions and thus moving its cash assets, via the eventual government spending channel, to the non-bank sector so that part of bank cash reserves would be balanced by non-bank deposits(liability).
    In any case, the reserve bloat is a result of the banking sector volitional act, at least partially, — no one was holding a gun to its head as it were. It would be interesting to know what part of the “injected” cash is a non-banking sector asset as percentage of the total bank reserves, perhaps banks do not “hoard” so much after all …

  45. RSJ's avatar

    “However, the bank sector still can change its balance sheet composition by buying paper at Treasury’s auctions and thus moving its cash assets, via the eventual government spending channel, to the non-bank sector so that part of bank cash reserves would be balanced by non-bank deposits(liability).”
    Not in aggregate, because the private non-bank sector has accounts with the banking sector, so that doesn’t get rid of the cash, either. B of A buys a treasury on the secondary market from Joe Investor, who has a brokerage account with Citigroup, and the cash goes from B of A to Citigroup. Or B of A buys a new issue sold by treasury, and the proceeds are mailed to Jane Social Security recipient, who banks with Wells Fargo, so Wells gets the cash, etc. The cash just hops around from one bank to another; there is no transaction by which the banking sector can free itself from a system wide reserve excess, or make up for a system wide shortfall. B of A can buy beer for a company party, and the beer vendor banks with JPM, so the cash is still in the banking system.
    Only the CB can alter the total stock of cash in the system. Banks, short of refusing to accept cash deposits, or refusing to accept payments in cash, are forced to hold whatever levels of cash are in the economy.
    I’m not saying that the system is airtight. There is some mattress money. Mail Float. I think the biggest leakage is eurodollar lending.
    But it’s more or less a closed system, and certainly if banks at some point have roughly the cash that they need, and then the CB decides to purchase a trillion in assets from private investors, and those private investors deposit the proceeds of the sale in the banking system, then the banks will be stuck with about a trillion in excess reserves, and they wont be able to rid themselves of those reserves until the CB sterilizes them by selling an equivalent amount of assets.

  46. vjk's avatar

    “Not in aggregate”
    I did not say in aggregate. What I meant was the cash distribution amongst the bank sector, the rest of the financial sector and the households.
    Even though the cash grand total remains the same, the sectoral distribution might provide some insight as to the motivation of those groups to sell government paper in exchange for cash. The aggregate reserve number, the fact that the cash sits on the bank reserve account, is pretty meaningless by itself.

  47. vjk's avatar

    To rephrase in a less muddled way:
    1. Let’s ssume there are following sectors other than the government: non-financial companies C, households H, banks B, finance minus banks(brokerages, mutual funds, pension funds, insurance, etc) F.
    2. What might be contribution of each group into the 1tril government securities swap for cash that resulted in 1tril excess reserves ?
    1tril = C + B + H + F
    One would speculate that H and C are pretty much negligible in comparison to B and F. I doubt such information is available, but had it been available, it might have been useful to predict the QE2 outcome, at least to a degree.

  48. RSJ's avatar

    VJK, “Finance” is considered part of the financial sector. ABS issuers, funding companies, thrifts, savings and loans, commercial banks, etc.
    Actually many of these non-bank finance firms are captives or special purpose entities created by the big banks. A better breakdown would be: Households, foreign sector, CB, financial firms, non-financial firms, and investment firms. Investment firms corresponds to pension funds, insurance firms, etc. You can roll the latter into households if you want. The point is, none of the non-financial firms run their own bank vaults or have reserve accounts. All the other sectors have deposit accounts with the financial sector, and you can assume that any FRNs that are created are either going to be in the form cash in someone’s wallet, or or they will be deposited within banks in the financial sector. Moreover, within the financial sector, any cash that is received is either stored in a bank vault for cash management needs, or it is used to acquire reserves at the CB. That is what is meant by, “in aggregate”. No pension fund is running a bank vault, storing cash in it, everyone has a deposit account at some bank.

  49. vjk's avatar

    RSJ:

    A better breakdown would be: Households, foreign sector, CB, financial firms, non-financial firms, and investment firms

    Right, behaviorally, households and investment firms can be merged, and probably non-financial firms firms too, into one sector.
    I’d separate depositary institutions (commercial banks and such) from the shadow banking.
    In any case, this line of reasoning seems pretty scholastic in the absence of numeric data as to how government paper flows are distributed amongst the players.
    No pension fund is running a bank vault, storing cash in it, everyone has a deposit account at some bank.
    That much is obvious 😉

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